Hmm.... Looks like I'm on a tighter budget than I thought. Dieter, what would my options be on armament? I could go shopping through the MAG, but the BP prices are a little whack. A Colt Command 5.56 for 20 BP's? As if!

20?!

That's loony.

I'm going off the statistics from the Modus Operandi website. It's pretty good IMO and that's what I'm sticking with right now.

Anywho...

A Colt Commando will run you 42BP's. I'm basing this off the stats for the M16A2.

42 BP's?! I'm working with 26! A "generic" 5.56x45mm AR would run me only 31 BP per the SC core book. Plus, taking a look at that list up at MO, the BP prices look a little arbitrary. Why would the M16A2 cost 13 more BP's than the M16?

Maybe I should go with a shotgun and some flechette ammo. Any input, team?

(Edited by Infested Paladin at 8:34 pm on July 10, 2002)

Shotguns aren't the best when you're going for accuracy, like in a hostage situation. Just don't point that thing at me.

If we can afford it, Gavin should have some sort of rifle (even semiauto or burst-only would be fine, like a Mini14), but with armor piercing ammo. If we can only afford one rifle, he's the one who should have it.

Here's the deal...

M16: 31BP, Damage 2d8+2, Error 1-2, Threat 19-20, Range 100ft

M16A2: 42BP, Damage 2d8+2, Error 1, Threat 19-20, Range 125ft.

The fact is that with progress (1960 vs. 1991) comes at a price but also with increased effectiveness.

Also, assault rifles are meant to be cost-prohibitive since you shouldn't be going into every mission armed to the teeth. Otherwise, this would just be a game of Delta Force.

Remember, this is just two people you're going to attack. You're not invading Panama looking for Noriega. It's just Harry!

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Remember, this is just two people you're going to attack. You're not invading Panama looking for Noriega. It's just Harry!

Just Harry? I'm sure Bobbin might have something to say about that.

Okay, I'm down to either a 5.56 semi-auto rifle (26 BP) with AP rounds (3 BP per 20) or a 9x19 SMG (18 BP) with Teflon-tipped (2 BP per 20). If it's the rifle, I'll need someone else to chip in for the ammo.

I've got 20 BPs left. Take the rifle, I'll get the ammo.

"What I need them for ? Oh, I just wanted to see how three magazines of 5.56mm would look in my handbag."

Gatac

BTW, looking at the SMG list there, I could get a P90 for just one BP point more.

I dunno about you guys, but if Dieter agrees to that, I'll take it.

Gatac

Don't use BPs on ammo. Use the actual monetary expenses. Ammo costs are given in real $$$, and some things you can get with BPs you can't get with real money.


Definitely go for the rifle. Armor piercing rifle rounds are more effective vs. armor, and pistol ammunition is crap anyway, at least compared to rifles.

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Remember, this is just two people you're going to attack. You're not invading Panama looking for Noriega. It's just Harry!

Just Harry? I'm sure Bobbin might have something to say about that.

If you're going Noreiga style, at least blast sinatra instead of Def Leppard.

Capone, Noreiga, the Three-Six Mafia, I don't care, so long as I don't get killed in the process.

I've only got the Lite PDF rules here at work, but from the vehicle selection here the Police Car looks to be a good bang for your buck. Obviously, not a lights/sirens model, probably like an undercover style car.

That's 4GP but I think it'll be well spent. It'll hold all of us plus some gear, and the only other vehicle I was considering was spending all my GP and 2 of harry's and getting a Humvee. OR... spend all of mine + 3 of Harry's and get a chopper. :biggrin:

The police cruiser'll leave me some room for addons. Threadbare, mind if I use 2 GP towards some car gadgets?

So, is the P90 cleared or will it cost me more than what the list tells ?

Gatac

You can have the P-90, but you only get one reload due to the 50-round clip capacity. Looks like you'll have to get a bigger handbag for Jessica.

Hm, that shouldn't be a problem. Make it so.

Gatac

The shock-value alone of a dainty woman pulling out a P-90 from her purse is worth the cost.

Hey, it's a freakin' Personal Defense Weapon. What do these people expect, a .38 snubnose revolver rolled up in a napkin ?

Gatac

A'ight, rifle it is. Can we at least call it an AR-15, or is there a special price for those, too?

I'll donate my own personal funds to buying ammo, enough for four clips. Can Artis use his procure ability to expedite this?

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That's 4GP but I think it'll be well spent. It'll hold all of us plus some gear, and the only other vehicle I was considering was spending all my GP and 2 of harry's and getting a Humvee. OR... spend all of mine + 3 of Harry's and get a chopper.

The police cruiser'll leave me some room for addons. Threadbare, mind if I use 2 GP towards some car gadgets?

Whatever's clever. Just make sure I don't get my ass perforated. Oh, and one of you should bring a gas mask or other random piece of gear. You never know when it'll come in handy...

The AR-15 is fine.

If everyone would post (here in this thread) their itemized list of points spent that would be great. I'll make a final post with everything edited together.

(Edited by Dieter at 10:16 pm on July 11, 2002)